taliban are there. taliban today i find that -- [inaudible]. so taliban as part of the political landscape of afghanistan to how they are connected, basically something which would be verified, do you want council? d1 government? pakistan, here i must say that there is a classic book. i read a long time ago, but i off and on we did. to just remind myself -- to just read it. is the history and the tradition and the development of these to crunch. so sometimes our problems become your problems, and your problems become our problems. >> do you want to comment? >> particularly on that question, i think in the context that takes place between pakistani army and afghan government, pakistani army position is that we should start out among ourselves, let's get americans out of here. they have bigger plans, other intentions. so in the private meetings, i think therefore smaller presence, privately we welcome. publicly there might be considered again, as ambassador indicated, there are many other forces and pakistan that may have concern about the impact